Christianity in Crisis Video of the Week
"Never pray if it be thy will" -- Rod Parsley
Congrats to Rod Parsley for making our video of the week. This video includes just a few of the many heresy's that he endorses.
Parsley stated "never pray if it be they will"... If Rod is correct then Jesus is wrong. This really isn't difficult if we would all just read our bibles. Here is what Luke 11 says...
Luk 11:1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
Luk 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Luk 11:3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
Luk 11:4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
It sounds to me that Parsley's doctrine is more like this "My will be done".
So bottom line here is Parsley's prayer or the prayer of Jesus. I site the biblical prayer of Jesus hands down!
by His Grace alone,
Bill
10 comments:
I don't mind telling myself and asking myself why I'm feeling this way if I'm depressed, because the Psalmist did it. But when things get mixed up and Parsley calls things into existance..it gets wierd. When God calls those things which aren't in Romans 4. The whole context is justification by believing(faith) and it was God calling those things which be not as though they were. In the same sense it is God calling us righteous who believe in Christ atoning work when we aren't, not by our righteousness but by the imputed righteousness of Christ.
So it's a great offense to the Gospel of Justification by faith to use that verse in some mystical way..speaking things forth out of of nothing like Word-faith does.
Parsley is the logical end of the trail that is WoF. Nothing but a blow-hard show-off. Wall-to-wall hype with No substance at all.
(and a hero of a certain mid-michigan pastor, who just thinks Parsley "is great!")
...stick around long enough, and i'll tell ya how i really feel.
lol
If I'm thinking of the same certain mid-michigan pastor who caused me vote democrat during breckenridges last election...I can thank his teachings for driving me to Calvinism. :P
Parsley is a blowhard. From what I've read his son has Aspergers Syndrome,(autism.) Rod himself suffers from chronic back pain. Now I'm not making light of his afflictions. However these guys will castigate "Joe Christian" for their lack of faith. In the meantime they will hide their problems for as long as possible! When they have to explain they will tell us they are victim of an extraordinary attack of Satan. Or they are on the "front lines" and the devil is trying to stop their important "Kingdom work." It's too bad P.T Barnum isn't around. "Raging" Rodney would be a perfect act in center ring!
Sam
Yes, a certian mid-michigan pastor expressed that to me at a small group meeting.. Parsley is nothing more than puff-n-fluff... You are right when you say no substance.
Ken,
I agree, there are days I am sick and have a temp 101. I don't try and call a temp of 98 into existance. These guys tote healings as normative...Everyday accurances in there lives. I wonder why simple healings don't take place at there churches.. for example:
It is always cancer is healed in this person, a brain tumor in that person.. But I never hear of someone who is "near-sited" healed and leaving their glasses in their pew or someone with blisters on there feet healed because they played to much basketball the night before. I am not saying I do not believe in healing, God is sovereign and can heal people, however I do not believe it is normative... But with these guys it is always the major illnesses getting healed, undocumented of course..
Bill the first thing that Reformed minister pray for when visiting the sick is healing, because in sickness people start to wondering about their salvation. So it's not like us reformed don't believe in healing and God's goodness to his people. It's just the fruity-ness that goes on in Word-faith. For instance last weekend I heard a minister saying Jesus said that "I AM", but it wasn't in context of him being Yahweh, but it was taking out of context making Jesus everything else(prosperity)and not God.
The opening phrase of that service was make Jesus personal, because he said, "I AM".
Now if that isn't using wiered semantics, I really don't know what that is! Non-christian cults like the Jehovah's Witness use that kinds of semantics, but in a more open destructive way.
Teach your people right, that's one thing I can say of that church I'm refering too. Teach about the Solas of the Reformation.
The greatest problem or one of them in WoF churches is that the pastor has the final say on theology and it's much like the middle ages(or cults). In Protestant Theology we'd say and rightly so, that Scripture alone stands in authority over the Church and it's teachers and not the other way around.
I'm just long winded today..
Ken, good comments!! Yes, those of us that are Reformed still pray for healing and I believe the scriptures teach us to do so. We also pray in accordance to asking God's will to be done... These WoF preachers say that it is God's will that all be healed, all be saved, all prosper...etc.. And that if you are not healed there is something wrong with your spiritual walk.
You are right. They use wiered semantics to try and validate their doctrine. Yet, when weighed against Sola Scriptura it fails at every turn. Good Thoughts Ken!!!
Exactly Bill! I try to look at riches to with biblical eye glasses. That some are blessed with a lot of money and I believe that we must reconize that it's called vocation. Some are called to be rich with money, but it's up to ministers to warn them to be generious in this life and not love money.
Maybe it would do Ken Copland some good if he lived as if he had nothing for a time...
It is significant that godly man in Genesis 1:26-28 is called to exercise dominion (not domination) over the earth, not other men, to develop all things in terms of God's law-word and to make this earth into God's realm and domain. Fallen man does not seek dominion, which begins with his salvation and his ability to rule himself, but, rather, the goal of fallen man is domination, to control other people.
In Ephesians 5:21-33, a husband's godly dominion over his wife is compared to Christ's ministry and the sacrifice of His life to redeem the Church. It is declared to be love: "He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh, but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church." This is not domination, yet all too many husbands who call themselves Christian still insist on replacing dominion with domination.
It should not surprise us, therefore, that Christians cannot cope with an evil world given to terror and to domination. Neither should it surprise us that too often the most successful clergyman are those who exercise, not dominion but domination, because this is what the world respects. ~ 1. R. J. Rushdoony, Roots of Reconstruction (Vallecito, CA: Ross House Books, 1991), 412.
Wow, very good Sam!!! That about sums it up.
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